How can we stay grounded on our spiritual journey? In this episode Amisha is in conversation with author, teacher, Enrealment Activist and Grounded Spiritualist Jeff Brown. Together they discuss the dangers of dissociative spiritual practices, as well as the cultures and individuals that encourage these practises for individuals carrying unresolved trauma. Jeff shares stories of his own spiritual journey and the experiences that led him to his current practises of embodiment, ‘enrealment’ and integration.He explains why embodied psychotherapy holds our greatest hope for healing and self realisation, how he made a spiritual practice of betting on horses at the races, and the myriad problems with patriarchal spirituality. Together Amisha and Jeff discuss some of the ways we dissociate and absent ourselves in the name of becoming present, and how we can learn instead to hold on to the threads of ever more diverse realities. Links from this episode and more at www.thefutureisbeautiful.co