Gretchen Rubin (@gretchenrubin) returns to the podcast to talk to me about her new book Outer Order Inner Calm and how a taking control of our stuff can make us feel more in control of our lives.Gretchen also hosts the podcast Happier with Gretchen Rubin.Gretchen's other books:Better Than Before.The Happiness Project.The Four Tendencies - and here's her appearance on this podcast talking about that book: Gretchen Rubin | The Four Tendencies.To join the closed Facebook group for the podcast click here >> The Emma Guns Show Forum.To follow me on social media >> Twitter | Instagram. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy